Do guys ask out the “girl next door” more than you?

by Princess T on January 19, 2010

Too sexy for you?

Too sexy for you?

This is a question I got from a reader on my last post, How to ask a guy out – what you don’t understand… I also asked her to answer the question herself which she did so well I might not have an answer for her!

Princes T over at “The Journey” asks: What do you think?

As the old saying goes: ‘the prettiest girls don’t get asked out to the prom’. I’m beginning to feel that there is some truth to this statement.

With this idea that girls should not ask guys out, it makes me wonder then what is it that makes a guy actually go up to a girl and ask her out? And is it true that the sort of average pretty girls get asked out a lot more than their stunningly hot counter-parts?

As a girl who is considered very attractive by most, I’ve been asking myself this question every since I vowed, a few months ago, to stop asking guys out. I no longer initiate conversations, offer my number unless asked, suggest it my be fun to get together, call/text/email/morse code/smoke signal/carrier pigeon a man unless it is in response to his contact etc.

I thought it would be a seamless transition whereby I could simply sit back, look gorgeous, and let the men flock to me. Apparently I was wrong, and it seems that I am either:

1. a lot less attractive than I thought (doubtful, people always tell me how beautiful I am, even strangers, and anyway I’ve seen far uglier girls getting asked out all the time so I can’t possibly be somehow hideous and operating under the delusion that I’m attractive…); or,
2. somehow unapproachable.

So, is it possible to be too hot? And is there more to getting asked out than just good looks (you mean, men aren’t actually 100% shallow?! This is shocking and upsetting news to me…)?

I have a couple of theories (and please correct me if I’m wrong):

There is a theory that shows people tend to choose a mate who is of a similar level of attractiveness (wrote about that here under “how to meet a rich guy“) and even of a similar look, as they are. And that there is even a correlation between the strength of the relationship and the similarities in looks. If you buy into this theory, then, while most guys might admire a very beautiful woman (the way they might admire that Ferrari), they don’t often pursue her because they instinctively don’t feel well matched for her (and hence they go to the Toyota dealership and buy a Camry instead). Using the car theory, the Ferrari dealership makes far fewer sales than the Toyota dealership because very few people can afford a Ferrari. So what do you do? You certainly can’t put the Ferrari on sale because then nobody would admire or appreciate it. So you’re left waiting for one of the few very special customers who can afford the Ferrari…

Excellent point and really good analogy Princes T! There is a lot of truth to this, guys often are more comfortable masturbating to pictures of Ferraris rather than ever thinking they could own one. It really doesn’t matter how much the Ferrari wants to be driven (or how hard and fast! hehehe) if the guy thinks he isn’t capable of owning one he will only look and not touch. – Mike

Another theory is that really hot girls are unapproachable because most guys have already decided that they have no chance. I’ve been told the male ego is very fragile and can only take so much rejection, so if a guy has been rejected by a few hot girls in the past, he may try to set the bar slightly lower. Guys are often not just attracted to the way a girl looks, but also (and sometimes even more importantly) to the way a girl makes them feel about themselves. Naturally, a girl who is likely to reject them will not make them feel so great about themselves.

Everyone’s ego is fragile! but since the guy is the one having to do the asking he has more to lose. The guy also instinctily knows that the prettier girls are also going to be hard to hang on to. Sometimes shooting low is very attractive! – Mike

Finally, I think hot girls have been given a very bad rep. In most tv/movie dramas, the hottest girl is always the bitch. She’s used to getting what she wants, when she wants, and isn’t afraid to walk all over people in the process. She talks about other girls behind their backs and steals their boyfriends. Let’s face it: we don’t actually like hot girls! We’re constantly told that being attractive = having power. Attractive people (and girls especially, or so the stereotype goes) get away with more, they get better jobs and more money, they get the best tables at the restaurants, and get better service at stores. So when a mere mortal of a man walks by, he’s terrified, not only of rejection, but of not being rejected, because deep down he knows that he’d have zero power in this relationship. No matter how easy going, good natured, sweet, loyal or down to earth the girl actually might be, if she’s hot, it’s assumed she must be high maintenance (remember, society tells us that she’s used to getting everything she wants) – she’ll be the type of girl who expects expensive restaurants ALL the time, and would probably sneer at the idea of going to the cricket (or baseball for my American friends out there) and grabbing a meat pie (or hot dog) and beer (or well… that’s universal!). She’ll also need a constant stream of gifts and flowers to keep her happy. And most men don’t want that. They prefer to sort of cute sweet girl, who is easy going, and free from the “entitlement issues” of the beautiful ruling class.

Unfortunately, I think that the bad rep is often deserved. The prettier girl often has a much thicker “Bitch Shield” for a reason! I could go on and on and on about this but I will save it for tomorrow.

Thanks for your input Princes T!

BTW… I took the above picture in a gay caberet club in Thailand, while a tranny insisted on sitting on my lap, she was a very attractive tranny btw, do you think she got asked out often?

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1 Princess T January 19, 2010 at 3:17 pm

Haha love the picture!

Thanks for your comments Mike. I think you’re point that prettier girls are hard to hang on to is right – I think I have high maintenance written all over me! I don’t mean to be that way, but I think I am without realizing it. Maybe I do have some sort of high standard with regards to how I expect to be treated – but I never thought I was unreasonable. Why would I want to be with a guy who endlessly wants to “hang out” watching TV, ordering pizza and sitting around in his underwear?! I’m sorry if it’s too much to ask for a man to PUT ON PANTS when dating me. If that makes me high maintenance, then I guess that’s what I am.
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2 Jules January 19, 2010 at 4:35 pm

I think you are pretty right on Princess T. However, Mike, I don’t think that the bad rep is really deserved. What’s wrong with trying to get to know the person before making judgements? I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not all that, but I’m not horrible looking either. I’m soo down-to-earth it’s ridiculous, but who would know that without giving me a chance. Anyway, whatever happened to not judging the book by its cover?

Great post Princess T!

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3 Princess T January 19, 2010 at 5:05 pm

Thanks Jules!

I think you’re right – the bad rep is not always deserved! Of course the stereotype of the hot girl/bitch comes from some real examples, just because a girl is hot, doesn’t mean she really will be a bitch. The “bitch shield” is often only reserved for the truly sleazy – like the guy who tried to convince my friend and me that there was enough room on his lap for the both of us… tempting… so tempting…
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4 Mike Masters January 19, 2010 at 7:25 pm

Haha!! great comment…
I wonder how many ladies I could fit on my lap? hmm… great pick up line, I am going to have to try that next time I find some horribly desperate women.
As a man… I can assure you that a lot of pretty women are spoiled rotten with attention. This is not an unfounded stereotype! However I am sure the two of you are very sweet.

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5 Mike Masters January 19, 2010 at 7:32 pm

Isn’t that picture awful??
It really was topped off with giggly Lady Boy on my lap. Then to bring it to another level of discomfort she shifted and I felt her package on my leg through her skirt. AHHHHHH!!!!! Comfort zone BREACHED!!!!

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6 sarz January 19, 2010 at 9:22 pm

Hehe, i find Princess T’s comments funny… you can’t be serious. I know tons of gorgeous gals who get asked out constantly by gorgeous boys! It’s all about connection… not just what you look like. Maybe, just maybe, it’s your attitude about yourself and others that needs adjusting a tad?

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7 Princess T January 19, 2010 at 10:33 pm

Haha fair point! I’m the first to admit that my general attitude towards life is sometimes… what’s the word… spoiled. But aren’t we all supposed to stop trying to change who we are and be happy with ourselves?

I still think the point is valid: men are notorious for not wanting to make an effort, and by taking myself of the discount rack (going up to men, initiating conversation and asking them out), and onto the top shelf (just sitting there and looking pretty), I’ve just made it too much of an effort for most men to date me. I guess I’ll just come to terms with that… and buy more shoes. At least without a man around I have more closet space. Ok that part was a joke!

Cheers!
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8 sarz January 19, 2010 at 10:59 pm

Yeah Princess T but don’t just sit there looking pretty … look and sound sexy and have fun. SIMPLY IRRESISTABLE :) IMO there’s a big difference between ‘hot’ and ’stunning’… some gals are one but not the other – if you are stunning, you have a big headstart on the rest of us lol

Hey Mike, horribly desperate women? ewwwwww haha

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9 Mike Masters January 20, 2010 at 2:34 pm

Hey, I am stunning, how come no one ever talks to me?
Maybe I got to stop hanging out at junior colleges.

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10 Kate January 20, 2010 at 4:12 am

Hmmm interesting post. I tend to think it is more about being approachable regardless of looks. The girl that sits aroun dlooking aloof and bored kind of screams boring whereas someone just having fun with their friends is far more attractive. Also I do think looks are subjective – some of the guys me and my friends find attractive are poles apart.

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11 Princess T January 20, 2010 at 3:31 pm

So true, approachable and friendly is probably more attractive than aloof and bored any day! I should probably work on that…

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12 LindseyLoo June 11, 2010 at 8:35 pm

Thank you Princess T!!! I was wondering the same thing myself. I also have a lot of intimidating factors. Not to mention almost finished with graduate school to be a psychologist, and a single mom. So, smart, knowing the psyche, and a kid? Yikes, in addition to being pretty. I have found myself going out with sweats, no makeup on, etc. to get guys to ask me out. Well, it’s just pointless. And I do see the types of girls they settle for and wonder why not me? Why settle for the rental car at Alamo when you have a Mazearti. I would think that my accomplishments alone show that I am not dependent on men or a gold digger. Anyways, wake up guys get some confidence!!

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13 A Plain Jane's View September 1, 2010 at 2:10 pm

LindseyLoo…well, that might be the problem. Maybe the guys don’t believe that they are “settling” because they could with girls who treat them well and have confidence, even if you don’t feel that these girls are as attractive as you.

Start by looking at your attitude towards other women. To you, they might have very little to offer. To the men they are with, they could be the nearest thing to heaven.

I happen to be the “girl next door” type. I’m not a model. I consider myself to be very pretty, but I’m not the most beautiful person in this world. I’m petite with big brown eyes. I’m shy but friendly, with a sweet personality. I’m smart and funny. I look significantly younger than I am.

I don’t wear makeup most of the time. I don’t fix my hair or wear special clothes. I don’t have perfect hair or a sexy body. I’m not gorgeous, but I have a natural beauty. I try to be beautiful on the inside, because I believe that inner beauty is important.

Some people have called me average, Plain Jane, even ugly…but guess what? I still found a man who loves and adores me. He is gorgeous too! :)

My husband thought I was simply “cute” when we met, but he fell in love with me because of who I was. Not my looks or my accomplishments, but because we had wonderful conversations and he loved all the silly little things about me.

I wasn’t like any other girl he had ever been with before. Sure, maybe some of them were prettier based on society’s standards of beauty, but they didn’t have what it took to actually win his heart.

And me? Well, I might be “plain” to some people but I DO have all the qualities of being wife material. I know how to make my husband feel appreciated, loved, and needed.

My point is…you might be beautiful and accomplished, but it sounds like your attitude needs work.

The “rental car at Alamo” might be a Maserati in the eyes of the other girl’s husband or boyfriend. He might be with her because he loves who SHE is. She might be unattractive compared to you, but she is perfect in his eyes. Being prettier or more accomplished does not make you more worthy of love than other girls.

Don’t be bitter…find somebody who will love and appreciate you the same way. I know it’s difficult but you can do it! :)

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14 Mike Masters September 1, 2010 at 3:32 pm

snore…

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15 LindseyLoo September 5, 2010 at 9:34 pm

You’re right. I am bitter because I am so hot. Perhaps my shitty attitude needs a makeover, but I don’t. See that is a crappy attitude. I don’t have one, but could. It is hard to find a guy on your level, and if I sound pretentious saying that, well then so be it. No matter what your look is or accomplishments, it’ll always come with some sorts of challenges. I apologize ahead of time for pissing you off <3

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16 Mike Masters September 5, 2010 at 9:51 pm

I am with you Lindsey, I find it very annoying when people do crap like this.
The truth is that she is talking to herself and she is projecting her own issues onto you. Total crap.
Don’t take offense, I would have responded a little more strongly but I figured the post was dead.

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17 LindseyLoo September 5, 2010 at 10:00 pm

The thing is that it is assumed that you are a bad person if you have a lot going for you- even in the looks department. To take so much space to tell some perfect stranger they need an attitude check is unnecessary, and you’re right very telling of the person. Obviously, she makes a point to state that she married a gorgeous man who is more attractive than her….and then later in the post, my type is the type that married men or other men stare at. So, is she saying that her husband settled and stares at pretty girls. Is this what pisses her off? I hate being that rude and brash, but if that is the case then she should check his ass at the door. Obviously something is not right here, because if it was then she would not have been so insecure to write such a thing. And, yes I just checked my email a few minutes ago so this is the first I have read of it.

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18 Mike Masters September 5, 2010 at 10:12 pm

Don’t let it get to you, she just stumbled onto the post and thought she would give her two cents.

Her advice is empty and not intelligent enough to take seriously. Not to mention that she is not wise enough to phrase things in a way that wouldn’t be offensive.

The fact that both of us think her advice is worthless is enough of a response.

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19 LindseyLoo September 5, 2010 at 10:19 pm

Touche Yoda, ha!! It did take awhile reading her response that she was actually insulting me. Oh well, you’re right and it is funny ;) .
~You can’t talk sense into the senseless~

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20 Mike Masters September 5, 2010 at 10:38 pm

Hadn’t read her comment in a while and I just scanned it again.
This is purely a stab at the “pretty girls.” She got a bit of luck with her man and she is trying to rub it in after the fact.
I would add more but there really isn’t much more here but without a doubt someone that still needs to poke at the pretty girls while “happily married” will mess it up.
But since most people inevitably mess it up, I guess that isn’t very Yoda of me.

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21 LindseyLoo September 5, 2010 at 10:48 pm

Very Yoda, very observant. It appears as if she is trying to make pretty girls jealous because she has an awesome thing going on with her man. I mean he loves her silliness and wonderful conversations, who can compete with that? Who’d want to? Honestly, landing a gorgeous man is not a life long goal or an “accomplishment”. Life isn’t about climbing the looks ladder. I just think she’s dumb and jealous and not deserving of any of this attention. :P

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22 Bella November 20, 2010 at 6:22 am

Ok well i don’t know if this will garner a response or the post is dead, but i will as a casual passerby put in my two cents about the last rant of Sept/2010 ignited by the comments of “Plain Jane”. People are not cars. Cars are not people. A hefty price tag on an automobile may ensure a bit more reliability or quality. We all get that. But like I said people are not cars. The biggest turn off a man ever gave me on a date was a comment about a unkempt middle age man pushing a baby in a stroller onto a bus and my date said that people like that shouldnt be allowed to have kids.How unattractively shallow of a statement!How judgemental! I know a man who is a millionaire and lives in a small tiny house and drives a 20 year old car to work.Plain Jane felt offended and was trying to bring this to light that self proclaimed “Princess” out there look at all the “Plain Janes” out there and think that because they don’t (insert random primping ritual here..i.e get a manicure every week or tan every two days), that makes Plain Janes less worthy? of relationships??? of love?? of having a family?? There are plenty of Plain Janes with Psych degrees and even a few that have flown into outer space and back. A good looking, single mother with a career is not special because of those 3 factors. There are hundreds of thousands of women that fit that bill :) I am one of them. I am a surgeon and single because my husband passed away in a plane crash 3 years ago.
You will need to dig a little deeper to find out what is unique about you. You are not everyones ideal mate, you just think you are. No one can see a passerby’s beautiful soul. It is cleverly hidden in each of us, under our makeup and skin. When you come to realize that, people will open up to you. don’t judge others by their looks…they will judge you. If Buddhist like I, then call it karma or if you are a Christian then believe in Jesus’” you reap what you sow”.

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23 LindseyLoo August 23, 2011 at 9:49 pm

Alright, thanks to my crappy email I just got this post.

Look Bella, or so-called Bella, this post is not directly posted towards you. I know you’ve fought the looks label and what not (because if you didn’t, well then you wouldn’t be posting this); however, this post is directed towards the troubles that attractive people face when they are dating. If you have a problem with this, then oh well. So, you’re a surgeon? Okay, kudos for having as much or almost as much as school as I have had, but you are still not a 10, and if you are well then give some proof there. I could give a shit about your neighbor old man who is a millionaire who drives a taurus. The whole car analogy goes much deeper. Men will treat you much like you treat a car. You’d appreciate something much more if you cleaned it, cared for it, payed for it out of your pocket, etc; rather than something given to you. Just like dating, guys appreciate something more when they have to work for it. Some guys think they are only worthy of a rental- or an easy girl who everyone has had, and they do not set their standards high; wheareas, other guys who have good credit work for the top. Where I am going with this is that a lot of guys settle and do not see what they are capable of getting. And if that intimidates you, then you have a problem with your own self esteem. Accept that there are more attractive girls out there than yourself. And, quite frankly get over yourself. Yes, an attractive girl told a less attractive and more educated and more bitter girl to get over yourself. Go ahead and reply with some attractive anecdote or some old man that you know. No one cares. This post is for the difficulties that accompany dating while being far above average, and if I wrote the post I would have involved you or the bell next door in the conversation because it doesn’t involve you .

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24 LindseyLoo August 23, 2011 at 9:52 pm

And to clear things up…. you really suck. There’s my educated opinion you hag.

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25 LindseyLoo August 23, 2011 at 10:03 pm

And the reap what you sew? What the hell did I sew? Attractie seeds? Damn you’re stupid.

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26 Mike Masters August 23, 2011 at 10:10 pm

Lindsey! Stop! you are kicking a dead horse! and probably a really fat ugly one at that.

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