Online love, can it work? 5 dating expert’s opinions

by Mike Masters on March 15, 2010

Online love, does it blow?

Online love, does it blow?

Got a question recently, “I met this guy online and I really really like him, we have an amazing connection and I want to know how to bring the attraction to another level, P.S. We have never met

This question made me snort hot coffee out of my nose and while packing my sinuses with vasiline, I realized this would be an interestting topic to ask my fellow dating experts!

Do you think “Online” relationships have as much validity as “Real” ones?

Here are their answers in the order I received them

The uber cool Nando of Nandoism says:

I have a headache already just thinking of this. As humans we want to connect with people, and the internet has allowed lonely, desperate slobs like me the opportunity to create bonds with many, many men on a virtual level–and the connections were “real” but just not real enough to make anything concrete happen. At the end of the day, we want to take those connections to the next level–physical. How can you kiss a skype monitor? (I’ve done it–it ain’t pretty) How can you masturbate with your video phone? (I’ve done it–it’s messy)

We need to stop being so scared of getting hurt, of taking risks, and go for it. Instead, we are just sitting at home looking through profiles and letting life just pass us by. Online dating can be a connector that leads us to the next level, but at some point, you’re gonna have to shut down the computer and download your ass over to a real person. (No pun intended for the gays or the anal-sex loving population)

Online Vs Offline dating? I say, it’s all in the RISK FACTOR.

The hilarious Fish of Plentymorefishoutofwater says:

Are online relationships as valid as real ones? Don’t be ridiculous. You don’t have an ‘amazing connection’ – you’ve allowed your mind to run away with itself.

One time I had a great rapport with a woman I met online. It went on for months. Then we started speaking on the phone. It went well – I loved her accent, she adored my cheeky patter. So eventually we met. Within 10 minutes of our first date she complained about all the walking we were doing – reckoned she had arthritis. That wasn’t mentioned on her Facebook page. An hour later she told me she had depression. Bizarrely, she hadn’t dropped this info into any of her emails.

The night ended with an argument in the street, and I woke up next morning with nine abusive text messages – one of which claimed I didn’t look like my photos. I couldn’t argue – I only put nice pictures on Facebook and Match.com. Everyone does. Obviously there are exceptions – but I bet my story is more than typical. So, the sooner you meet up for real, the better.

How do you do that? You get your bum into gear and set something up. If the other person keeps making excuses, you just have to accept they’re probably a convict. Or into incest. Or geriatric.

The witty Alex of The Urban Dater responds:

I have tried, crashed and burned in LDRs.  Utterly failed at them.  Failure is an understatement, in this case, the same way that saying the creature smashing NYC in Cloverfield was sorta big and agitated.  As I’m writing this, and I have to tell you the timing of this message is uncanny, I’m sitting across from two of my closest friends, Jen and Pete.  They’ve been married a shade over three years, still marriage no0bs, by many standards.  They met on Myspace.  Yep!  Myspace.  They didn’t get married right away, though.  They worked their relationship out long distance, chatting, IMing, Skyping and what ever horny singles separated by large bodies of water employ to keep the interest going…  They worked at it EVERY day. I recall sitting around hanging with Jen’s roommate, listening to her talk on the phone, watching her type madly away at this dude over seas.  I thought she was insane…

They proved me wrong.

I think LDRs can work if the following conditions are true: 1. Each participant works at it.  Hard.  Every day hard, multiple times a day hard (no, pervs, I don’t mean like THAT, though, if they masturbated like THAT it relieves the building tensions).  2. There has to be an expectation of meeting up and spending time together.  One to two times a year, I’d say.  From there, the expectation must be set that, yes, the two participants will eventually live together, get married, club baby seals together et al.

Then here is the new girl on the bloggin block and a skilled online dater Zoë Blue from WinkWinkWink

When I taught in Asia, I had a long distance relationship (LDR). Derek and I had met when I visited California during vacation, and we instantly connected so we decided to try a six-month LDR before I moved to California. It was a gamble, but a gamble that paid off in a four-year relationship.

It was our first LDR. Given our 16-hour time difference and full-time schedules, it meant that one of us would be awake past midnight and into the early morning. It was crazy, but we were crazy about each other. Time constraints were tremendous. We talked and emailed for hours a day in addition to our full-time jobs. With the time zone difference, we had to wake up early or go to bed late. Skype didn’t work very well for us, so we relied on Yahoo Messenger and webcams. We also bought hundreds of dollars worth of phone cards. But it was a beautiful relationship; we developed a deep trust in each other that I have never encountered since. When you fall in love with someone you can’t see in person, you need trust.

Just one note of caution, though: No matter how much you think you know someone through emails, webcam chats and phone calls, nothing prepares you for being with them. After six months, when we reunited in California it was back to Square One. LDRs can be a tremendous thing, but transitioning between long distance and in-person was challenging and it felt as if we had built two relationships, not one.

and finally Dating Diva from Tales of an Internet Dater gives this very wise wisdom:

I think online relationships can, at times, feel more intense out of the gate because you have their pictures, their hopes and dreams all spelled out for you on one page. People tend to say things they wouldn’t normally say face to face , which then often leads to a false sense of connection with another person. Sometimes what looks great in email and IM’s, even over the phone just doesn’t equal real chemistry in person. Body language, eye contact, mannerisms…they are things that are crucial when connecting with someone in a relationship. This is something you just can’t get with a virtual relationship. Before wanting to take this to the next level, my advice is to meet this guy in person, for all you know he could be missing teeth and enjoy peeing on walls during a date. Not that I know from experience or anything.

And last but not least the very cynical ME:

I looked out of the bus window to wave my forever good-byes to my students Maho and Hitomi. Strangely, Maho was alone, her mouth open, and her face was distorted with anger, sadness and betrayal. “What the hell?” I got up to see what was wrong and Hitomi entered the bus. She quickly walked up to me, her eyes deer wide and looked as if she were about to shank me. Instead she blurted out, “Mike sensei, I love you!” She looked away and started to tear up and without looking she lunged forward and embraced me. Before I could respond she let go and bolted off the bus right past a yelling Maho, clearly furious at Hitomi’s actions. The bus pulled away with me totally bewildered and both girls crying. WTF?

I found out later, that Maho and Hitomi both were “in love with me” and Maho was crushed that Hitomi had “stolen” me by saying it first. I was amazed that these young inexperienced girls had created an elaborate fantasy around their teacher, and had played off of one another in a virtual tug a war for my imagined affections. This insanity is no different than the fantasies people create around online lovers.

People are simply HIGH if they think they can really understand someone from their Match.com,  FB profile or 200 phone calls. As of yet the digital world CANNOT replace a personal interaction and saying you really like someone online only is as insane as the guy that married his pillow last week.

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1 Mike Masters March 15, 2010 at 7:28 am

Little side note,
I meant the post to be only on, if you have not met that person in real life but I liked the responses on LDRs just as much. I felt that they were just as valid since relationships really need that personal connection.

I think relationships are hard enough without distance and LDRs are nuts but I have had my fair share of them as well, one of which worked out.

As for the never meeting in person and creating a relationship? Horse manure, never gonna work out.

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2 Lucky Girl March 15, 2010 at 7:31 am

There must be something in the water, because I wrote a post about this just this past Saturday! It’s interesting to see what others have to say about it.

I’m with Diva in that a solely “online relationship” is about as complete as marrying your pillow or your gaming avatar. And my rule has long been with Nando and Fishy – we’re online looking for real-life partners. So if there is someone who piques your interest, meet! In person. And I think this applies to both Local and Long Distance relationships because NOTHING is a substitute for personal interaction.

But as Diva says, it is VERY easy to get caught up in digital interaction, because as my post from Saturday explores, until you meet, they exist in our minds as the IDEA of a person, and that can be an incredibly powerful thing. In a bad way.

I enjoyed this post. Thanks, Mike!
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3 Mike Masters March 15, 2010 at 7:40 am

funny, it must be in the air, Nando called me on the phone one day and we started talking about it. How people weave these ridiculous fantasies that are bound to be crushed the instant they meet that person.

When I got the above email I realized I had to write about it. Since I am a total cynic about such things I wanted other opinions because like DD some people don’t have a choice.

Glad you liked it and I forgot to put you on my blogroll, let me do that now…

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4 Fishy March 15, 2010 at 7:52 am

Hey, this looks great Mike – and nice to see Diva on here. Love Nando’s answer.
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5 Dating Diva March 15, 2010 at 9:14 pm

Aww you are so sweet Fishy. :)

Everyone had great answers, happy to be part of this great pool of advice!
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6 Mike Masters March 15, 2010 at 7:57 am

Cool, thanks for coming by and the RT
Nando’s answer was great and It was nice to lead with him. Really liked yours as well, very clear it was a real story. (was her name Sandy? you might have gone out with my mom)

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7 nandoism March 15, 2010 at 9:27 am

awesome post! thanks for letting me play!
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8 Mike Masters March 15, 2010 at 9:43 am

I will play with you anytime Nando

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9 Rapunzel March 15, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Some guy ‘bounced’ past me the other day. You know what I mean? He had that terrible way of walking where you bob up and down. Plus his trousers were hovering above his ankles. All I could think about was imagine if I’d met him online. He could be the funniest, loveliest guy ever but that would put me right off!!

Fickle moi?!

Personally I think if you do meet someone and they are everything you’ve imagined/worked out, it’s just a great coincidence!

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10 Mike Masters March 15, 2010 at 3:26 pm

It is true, the last person I met online had such bad breath that my eyes started watering and my nose hair curled. I think she should have put that on her profile.

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11 adrianna giuliani March 15, 2010 at 3:19 pm

hey there, liking your blog, just found it via twitter. my weigh in is simple. the problem with online dating profiles is that they encourage “resume” style dating. you know, like the person looks tall enough, went to a good enough school, “likes dogs” and vacationing (i mean who doesn’t like 80% of the things listed on dating profiles???) the initial connection is based on “on paper” compatibility. my advice for people is always to meet sooner than later so they can ensure that the emotional chemistry is there too.
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12 Mike Masters March 15, 2010 at 3:29 pm

Thank you! hope you stick around,
Good point about the resume, you just don’t know until you meet them. Not to mention, there probably are a huge number of undetectable, unmeasurable cues that increase/destroy attraction. How can one really know from a profile? skype? the phone?

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13 Miss Alpha March 15, 2010 at 8:04 pm

Online dating, like most things in life, is only as good as your intentions. If you want to play email tennis and daydream over someone you’ve made up, that’s all you’re going to get out of it. If you want to jump in with both feet and connect, you will.

Good post.
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14 Mike Masters March 16, 2010 at 6:06 am

Amen,
I hope all these comments sink in for someone, I am tired of answering this question. Happy that I can send these people to a post with a pretty solid. “YOU ARE HIGH” with online relationships.
Thanks for the 2 cents Miss Alpha

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15 The Urban Dater March 16, 2010 at 12:03 am

Really, I must be on something when I write some of the things I write… *sigh.

Awesome post, Mike. I really loved everyone’s input.

Miss Alpha makes a good point, one that I’ve been guilty of falling into. I’ve been in LDRs with women and I work up this relationship in my head… I think five moves ahead of the game and yet never met the woman in question. Fail. Buy failure leads to success if you recognize your missteps.

Great post. =)

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16 Mike Masters March 16, 2010 at 6:07 pm

Dude you are funny as hell.
Keep taking what you are taking, enjoy your writing very much.

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17 gail March 16, 2010 at 6:16 am

great post! lately I fantasize about my world sans all computer and iphone distraction… can hardly bring that into focus

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18 Mike Masters March 16, 2010 at 6:08 pm

Gail… kinda lost me there!

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19 Man-shopper March 16, 2010 at 5:35 pm

Great post, guys!

Fishy – I don’t know why, but now you’ve got me thinking what it’d be like to go on a date with convict, a guy into incest, and geriatric. Hmmm… new side project?

Zoe – I love how your candid posts so often make me remember some of the more beautiful moments in my past relationships!

Alex and Dating Diva – AMEN… especially the bits about clubbing baby seals and missing teeth…

Mike – excellent point about building expectations in your head. As a foreigner in a strange land, I have to set up in-person dates ASAP before expectations begin to form. I guess that I rely very heavily on visual cues and physical chemistry to make up for whatever deficiencies I have in the language department — deficiencies that are much easier to pass off as cute when I have the guy in front of me :)
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20 Mike Masters March 16, 2010 at 6:18 pm

This was the secret to my Japanese fluency, met a great girl that couldn’t speak English.

Hope you find the same. Nothing like being fluent in another language in a place that you love.

So we will have to meet pretty soon. My fantasies of you are getting a little out of control

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21 radiantjoy March 17, 2010 at 9:15 pm

I knew it. LOL.

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22 Man-shopper March 18, 2010 at 6:10 pm

Ah yes, you’re right. I’ve always been told that the best way to learn french is on the pillow. (I’m really not sure if I got that expression right… My English has gone downhill recently.)

Come to Paris! But as many have said in this post, fantasies never live up to reality! :)
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23 Mike Masters March 18, 2010 at 6:41 pm

Isn’t it funny how that happens? When i came back I kept wording things the way i would say it in japanese, it was so odd…

It is a good thing I have zero expectations for any place I travel to. Otherwise I would be miserable in Michigan. Wait… I think I might be?

I want to have pillow talk with you! hmm… what could I teach you?

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24 gail March 18, 2010 at 6:16 am

haha… not very articulate for a writer, huh? What I meant was before the whole online world… dating was more gradual and mysterious. You didn’t know so much about a person before you met them so part of falling for them was a gradual unveiling of their loves and interests and quirks. So I guess I was saying that while I am totally hooked on e-mail and texting and facebook, part of me thinks the spending more time talking on the phone and writing hand-written letters and not knowing so much about a person before you really know them might be nice…

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25 Mike Masters March 18, 2010 at 7:55 am

wow… I remember those days! ;)
(minus the hand written letters)

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26 gail March 18, 2010 at 1:26 pm

you should try the snail mail thing… very exciting to receive a love letter that way… I also think writing by hand is much more sensual and therefore taps into more of your senses. I often write first drafts of whatever I’m working on by hand in a journal. Thanks for your blog! I love it! gkb

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27 Mike Masters March 18, 2010 at 1:36 pm

You are right, I probably should. I have never really excelled at the whole romantic part of relationships. Always felt like I had two left feet.
Well, I will send that letter off to you right away!

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28 gail March 18, 2010 at 2:17 pm

I think the forced act of slowing down, waiting, mystery… can increase both sensuality and seductiveness and the tension you write about…

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29 Mike Masters March 18, 2010 at 2:59 pm

totally agree, but instead of weeks it is now hours or days that raise excitement.

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30 gail March 18, 2010 at 3:38 pm

weeks… I’m laughing hard… you were joking, right?

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31 Mike Masters March 18, 2010 at 5:49 pm

Me? joke? Does the pope shit in the woods?

Actually nope, I wish I were responsible for that laugh, I meant a good 100 years ago. When love was so much more “romantic” (vomits in mouth)

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32 Denns August 17, 2010 at 3:44 am

Its nice to see real people sharing their experiences online. Honestly its blogs like these that have helped me reach were I am today. Thanks for sharing this with us
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33 Sally December 20, 2010 at 1:20 am

Ugh i met a guy online he turned out to be hearing impaired which i was okay with but then he wouldnt take down his profile until i sat by and watch him delete after being his gf for 2 months then he told me he had a baby with some random chick that he doesnt talk to anymore and thennnnnnnn he never lets me his cell phone. wth did i get myself into!?

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