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		<title>By: Mike Masters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Masters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RTM I understand what you are saying and the story probably was not appropriate for getting the point across. 

@RTM/Rose no one was in danger? Really? Nobody was safe here, there is a very real chance that somebody passed stuff on, maybe it was only HPV or a little bacteria but still, it could have been nasty. 

@Ellle I like your analogy. We do cover people&#039;s asses to have our own covered later. For me it was allowing a friend to grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RTM I understand what you are saying and the story probably was not appropriate for getting the point across. </p>
<p>@RTM/Rose no one was in danger? Really? Nobody was safe here, there is a very real chance that somebody passed stuff on, maybe it was only HPV or a little bacteria but still, it could have been nasty. </p>
<p>@Ellle I like your analogy. We do cover people&#8217;s asses to have our own covered later. For me it was allowing a friend to grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally get what you are saying. Its the same reason i don&#039;t call the cops when other renters in my complex have a pool party at 3 am. Yes, it sucks to be woken up at 3 am by a bunch of drunk people splashing around in the pool with no disregard to the other inhabitants of the complex. But if i ever get drunk and want to go skinny dipping in said pool with some hot guy at 3 am, I don&#039;t want them calling the cops on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally get what you are saying. Its the same reason i don&#8217;t call the cops when other renters in my complex have a pool party at 3 am. Yes, it sucks to be woken up at 3 am by a bunch of drunk people splashing around in the pool with no disregard to the other inhabitants of the complex. But if i ever get drunk and want to go skinny dipping in said pool with some hot guy at 3 am, I don&#8217;t want them calling the cops on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosalyn Newell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosalyn Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RTM Exactly, exactly.

These two examples are totally different, nobody is in danger. In the second scenario, where someone was drunk and felt awful about it, I would have left it up to them. Usually I would scold someone but if they already feel awful about it, it&#039;s their look out. A relationship is built on trust however, so I would think it best for him to tell the girlfriend because he might not be himself. That, or he tells a mild version of the story - maybe he ended up kissing a girl. Something like that, so he feels duly punished by his girlfriend, but she wont break up with him.

The example of the cheating fiance one is harder. I was once in a similar position, it would have been hard for me to tell the boyfriend because he lived in France (she in Germany), and didn&#039;t speak each other&#039;s languages. I also didn&#039;t know for sure that he wasn&#039;t doing the same. But I put her under immense pressure... Basically, this friend, she was 32, the Algerian in Paris was 25, he had leant her lots of money at one point (effectively - he bought her a car as a present, she intended to pay it back, and later did). I wouldn&#039;t have minded SO much if the second relationship had been a genuine exploration of feelings like in your example, but it was literally just sex, with a 20 year old who was just using her as a booty call, a good 40 miles away, and another sort of friend of ours. There was a risk her boyfriend would find out - he sometimes would call out the blue you see, and at one point it occurred to her too - when she nearly had an accident on the road to the 20 year olds&#039; - how would she explain her journey if she ended up in hospital? So yeah... I put her under pressure to give it up, and I don&#039;t regret that, she was not only potentially harming her boyfriend, but herself too. I didn&#039;t do the dirty - it would have been difficult to anyway - but her hypocrisy put our friendship under a lot of strain, as I found her &quot;player&quot; mentality quite hard to accept, when coupled with stories of how two (the boyfriend and the friend) had proposed marriage, declaring love etc...

I think what I am saying, is that RTM, myself, and the other ladies who objected in the other scenario, are doing it more for the reasons explained by QTMama - because the victim was an expectant mother and an sTD was involved. I think even in the most innocent of cases above, if there was an STD involved, I would want them to tell their partners. In the case of my cheating friend, I kept harassing her to go to the clinic, and use condoms. Thank god, she was clean.

Finally, what good is any relationship without honesty and trust. I think my friend&#039;s words as she got the all clear said it all: 

&quot;I was cheating on him you know, but I knew who I was sleeping with. We tell we each other we love each other, but I did that. He could have been cheating too - and then I might have caught something, AIDs, even, I don&#039;t know who he is sleeping with....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RTM Exactly, exactly.</p>
<p>These two examples are totally different, nobody is in danger. In the second scenario, where someone was drunk and felt awful about it, I would have left it up to them. Usually I would scold someone but if they already feel awful about it, it&#8217;s their look out. A relationship is built on trust however, so I would think it best for him to tell the girlfriend because he might not be himself. That, or he tells a mild version of the story &#8211; maybe he ended up kissing a girl. Something like that, so he feels duly punished by his girlfriend, but she wont break up with him.</p>
<p>The example of the cheating fiance one is harder. I was once in a similar position, it would have been hard for me to tell the boyfriend because he lived in France (she in Germany), and didn&#8217;t speak each other&#8217;s languages. I also didn&#8217;t know for sure that he wasn&#8217;t doing the same. But I put her under immense pressure&#8230; Basically, this friend, she was 32, the Algerian in Paris was 25, he had leant her lots of money at one point (effectively &#8211; he bought her a car as a present, she intended to pay it back, and later did). I wouldn&#8217;t have minded SO much if the second relationship had been a genuine exploration of feelings like in your example, but it was literally just sex, with a 20 year old who was just using her as a booty call, a good 40 miles away, and another sort of friend of ours. There was a risk her boyfriend would find out &#8211; he sometimes would call out the blue you see, and at one point it occurred to her too &#8211; when she nearly had an accident on the road to the 20 year olds&#8217; &#8211; how would she explain her journey if she ended up in hospital? So yeah&#8230; I put her under pressure to give it up, and I don&#8217;t regret that, she was not only potentially harming her boyfriend, but herself too. I didn&#8217;t do the dirty &#8211; it would have been difficult to anyway &#8211; but her hypocrisy put our friendship under a lot of strain, as I found her &#8220;player&#8221; mentality quite hard to accept, when coupled with stories of how two (the boyfriend and the friend) had proposed marriage, declaring love etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I think what I am saying, is that RTM, myself, and the other ladies who objected in the other scenario, are doing it more for the reasons explained by QTMama &#8211; because the victim was an expectant mother and an sTD was involved. I think even in the most innocent of cases above, if there was an STD involved, I would want them to tell their partners. In the case of my cheating friend, I kept harassing her to go to the clinic, and use condoms. Thank god, she was clean.</p>
<p>Finally, what good is any relationship without honesty and trust. I think my friend&#8217;s words as she got the all clear said it all: </p>
<p>&#8220;I was cheating on him you know, but I knew who I was sleeping with. We tell we each other we love each other, but I did that. He could have been cheating too &#8211; and then I might have caught something, AIDs, even, I don&#8217;t know who he is sleeping with&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just keep in on the DL, don&#039;t put your friends in a bad moral position!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep in on the DL, don&#8217;t put your friends in a bad moral position!</p>
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		<title>By: roadtripmama</title>
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		<dc:creator>roadtripmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike...big difference in this post as compared to the other. There was a pregnant person and STD involved. Keeping quiet due to loyalty to your friends is fine. When they are endangered physically, it&#039;s a whole new ball game! Or, when they have endangered others, new ball game. BTW - I thought the hangover was hilarious...juvenile, but realistic and I have been there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike&#8230;big difference in this post as compared to the other. There was a pregnant person and STD involved. Keeping quiet due to loyalty to your friends is fine. When they are endangered physically, it&#8217;s a whole new ball game! Or, when they have endangered others, new ball game. BTW &#8211; I thought the hangover was hilarious&#8230;juvenile, but realistic and I have been there!</p>
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